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 Liberal or Conservative politics? (115)

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Liberal or Conservative politics?

Which side is best for the country in the current economic situation?

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"The More Things Change The More They Stay the Same"

-Bon Jovi

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First of all, I love you, Maggie. Only you would bring Bon Jovi into politics. Second, good point(:

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Maggie, you and only you would bring bon jovi into this (:

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Dude, I totally agree with that statement. Jon Bon Jovi Rocks! We all want to change so fast, but were still in this same era. You know people these days are building flying cars, ipods, 3D-Plasm Screen TV's, etc. But, we aren't losing key traditions, and knocking down old buildings to put really shnazy complexes up. We are actually moving backwards. People are now homeless on the streets, making less money, lossing jobs, moving, can't afford special needs for themselves, and gifts for parties. So even though people say and know we all are making progresses to move forward, we are still falling behind the 8 ball.

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being liberal is better for the us the being conservative

MadisonJewel(13) Disputed
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so taking a way peoples hard earned money and giving it to people who live off the government so they don't have to try to find a job is better?

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i agree 100%. Its not right to take money from people that work there life's away and give it to the people that sit around and feed off of the government

alexkrueger(15) Disputed
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So youre saying that you think the US debt is too low and would like it to raise?

alexcalteux(4) Disputed
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not nessecarly the conservative has its ups and downs. so does the liberal

efohr(40) Disputed
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Yes we need change, but we also need to keep things the same and simple.

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agrreed!! In some areas we do need change yes. but in others we need things to stay the same and to stay simple like you had said

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I think being libral would help the economic situation because change is what makes a differance in our economy

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being libral is the best choice so people who are conservative start being libral

danlevan(14) Disputed
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So, everyone who is not a liberal should take up a liberal point of view... Sounds like a little bit of a dictatorship to me! The entire country should embrace liberalism in order to work out the problems we are facing, such as debt, unemployment, war, etc. That is an interesting way to fix the United States, but I don't think that it would work too well. Without another political faction to balance the scale (legislative, judicial, as well as legislative decisions) this country could very easily become much more messed up than it is currently.

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Both, our country needs the guidance of and leadership of both liberals and conservatives. Both groups have good and bad ideas that when you put them together great things could happen.

I definitely agree with you; without a balance of liberal and conservative views our U.S. government system will become corrupt.

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i also agree with you, by balancing the two, our government will have the perfect system. We can't make too much change, but theres always room for it.

i support this because we should need to keep some of the conservative views and beliefs in our country but we should also not be afraid to change what we already have.

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We need a bit of both; liberal views move us forward and conservative views like to keep things as they are.

Obama is in favor of taking the U.S. troops out of the war, he wants to raise energy standards, and form strong realationships with countries that will work together to solve world issues. I think we should help others that are less fortunate than us. It only seems right to take the time to care and lend a helping hand. On the liberal side, I would say that if we don't move forward, then we will not solve our many growing problems that everyone complains about.

However, I could also see the conservative part of the argument. They believe that people should really have to work for their money and shouldn't be rewarded if they didn't do anything to earn it. Republicans are very anti-communist. I feel that there are definitely flaws in communisum government. People need to be rewarded for doing a good job, they need to strive to be better. If everyone is at "the same level" no one will improve and our society and people will be able to slack off.

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I agree 100% with you! We need a little bit of both! Some change is good for us, but also keeping things traditional is also good as well.

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Leaning liberal, We do need change but we can't move to fast, if we move too fast we will have many problems and nevver will have time to fix them,,also its good to keep some of the old thing thats work, that gives us a strong foundation to work and grow from.

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Shauna, I agree with you and you have a very good point, I think it's important to keep some things the same, and at a slower pace, good way of thinking about it!

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i agree with that becuase if we focus on just some things, and by doing one thing at a time stuff wont be so hard but keep improving

100% agree! we need to have new things and change but we cant move to fast or we will just have more problems that are more complicated. We also need to keep some of the conservative points of view and beliefs so that we can stay and become a strong country.

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We need to become more conservative. We are wasting away a boat-load of Obama Bucks and just getting ourselves in more debt. We need to learn to save more money. However, we need to become more liberal and look for more options to dig us out.

You're right that we have to be more conservitive but with the way our economy is failing at this point, we need change now.

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Brent, I believe that you make very good points. We have to make sure that we do not keep spending money in the manner that we have been, or this hole we call debt will become a bottomless abyss of which we have no chance of climbing from. Also, we you say that we have to become more liberal in order for options to dig us out, I think you may be right. Conservatives generally look to the past in order to fix the present, but solutions may not preexist, a liberal view could bring about more options which could be used to get this country out of debt, and possibly fix other problems at the same time.

efohr(40) Disputed
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I don't agree with you becoming more conservative because we also need to have a little bit of liberal. Yes, your right we do need to save money but a lot of people know how to also.

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Liberal and conservative together would give our governement the perfect balance. We can't hold on to all of our old ways right now, conservative because we have many economic issues. We need to make change, but not go out of control with the amount of it because too much is never a good thing.

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I believe that, at this point in time, the Conservatives have better plans than the Liberals. For example, people who live off the government, without any plans to get a job/work for a living, would have the right to claim part of the money that people who are actually working are making. Basically, those who do nothing all day would get money for doing nothing. Doesn't really make sense, does it? Why should people who work 10, 11, or even 12 hour days, out in the elements all year, have to share their hard-earned money with people who could care less about working or supporting their country? Oh, and taxing the millionaires... that's a good plan. Millionaires and billionaires are the people who create companies, therefore they also create jobs, and increasing their taxes will hurt the economy more than help it. Obama will hardly earn the support of these wealthy individuals by raising their tax rate, who, I might add, are also very helpful when it comes to funding a campaign (for example; a campaign for re-election could be fueled by rich people who would be more than happy to help out a man (Obama) whom they believe in. However, when their taxes are raised by this same man in whom they placed trust and support, do you really think that they will be jumping to give him more money? I wouldn't... If a bill was passed that would increase the amount of money which you had to give to the government, would you still be as supportive of that government?)

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Liberal because we are in a world of change and we are going to continue to change. The republican party is becoming too radical.

BrentThiel(20) Disputed
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Well, yes, we do need to change, however, we should slow it down a bit and go back to the traditional ways.

noahpaquette(8) Disputed
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wrong way homie you see we need change ya dig tradtional ways didnt always get us out of problems we need changes beilieve that word?

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i agree not everything should be about the future. We need to work on the present and fuigure out what worked and didnt work in the past.

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I think in politics right now we should be more conservative, because goverrnment should'nt give out so many bail outs. People should work for thier own money, instead of living off of government checks.

bmusiedlak(14) Disputed
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I disagee because everyone needs to live and everyone needs a job.

mglander(4) Disputed
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Sometimes peopel dont have a choice, becasue people cant get jobs, and if government is taking away jobs, how are they supposed to find one?

I agree to an extent. Everyone needs to work hard for their money and jobs and not live off handouts. From the other point of view, we need change now and cannot keep running our country the way we are.

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we should be liberal so we can change whats going on right now

MadisonJewel(13) Disputed
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Our country is being ran by a democrat... and our economy is getting worse

alexkrueger(15) Disputed
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Whats going on now????????????????????????????????????????????????????

SallyPaese(16) Disputed
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well our economy is horrible............DUH...............

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uuummmm our people dont think about anyone else anymore and that leads to power struggles and what we are in right now

alexcalteux(4) Disputed
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we do need to change whats going on, but we need to look in the past to see if we can prevent a problem that maybe we already had to deal with

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moving fordward what counts not moving backward thats why were all messed up in this economical situation

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i believe the conservative is right because in our government today we are fighting with our army against terrorist. And i believe that every person has the right to live

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Liberal because at the current state of our economy we need to make changes in order to make it better. what the government is doing right now is not working because people are still struggling for jobs and are having trouble making good money. things need to change so people can find jobs and better support their families.

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i think the conservative is right because we are fighting against terriost

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I like being libral so all the other people who are not libral start being libral

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conservative people today make young people look so old and confused

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Liberal because we need to advance as a country. The Republican party is trying to take too much control of everything.

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I think people should be more independent and not rely so much on the government for money, but make their own money to sustain themselves; Conservative

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people of this class if you are conservative there is major probs with your side

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I think both have many faults but in the end liberals don't want people starving in the streets. I don't want to be either but i choose liberal.

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libralists are what makes this world better and better and run this economic situation be an economic solution

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liberal would be a good choice as well, such as not wanting the military fighting. they look in the future. they want world peace and thats what the world needs now

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We should be a little liberral so we accept the bills and laws that will help our country.

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some of us librals are that just smart for your conservatives and your thinking errors

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in the test thingie i was right in the middle (plus I'm stubborn) so i don't really want either but i do think we should go back to our old 1800 morales (where we watched out for each other and such)

conservative because then the country will conserve there money and get us out of debt

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Brianna- but the people who are protesting obivisouly arent working. Maybe they shoul stop being lazy and try to get the any job that can pay any money.

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Liberal, we need to change right now because mnay buisnesses are failing

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Liberal becasue the liberal side of politics are changing and always willing to change.

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I think liberal to some degree because if we change to fast things will get complicated.

Liberal; with the current state of our economy, we need change. If we keep running our country the same way we are now, we won't be making any improvements.

benwentz6(18) Disputed
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I also agree Elise but change costs money, and we are in enough debt already. And we dont need to change all that much. Certain things are fine.

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good idea Elise, I agree with your point of view, we do need change, and improvements are always being made, and we need to keep changing, but not with everything, we don't need everything to change at once

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Being a liberal is promoting maximum individual freedom as well as being open minded and tolerant. A liberal is not afraid to explore and implement new and different ideas even those that may seem strange and unacceptable to the majority.

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Liberal because everything is always changing and we have to agree and change with it also.

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A conservative is disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change (taken from dictionary.com which I think it is a pretty good definition).

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I say liberal because we should try to keep buiding on the change that we have already achived.

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True because look how many wars we have had in the past if we really tried we could have no wars in the future

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I agree, thats why I say liberal because we need change if we want to achive something like this

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I believe in liberal, a bit more, because we do need change for the most part, but we also Don't want to wreck some of the progress we have already made.

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liberal because it would help are nation and dept beacuse were way to far into dept

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I think liberal is best, because we do need change, and our society is always changing. We need to keep changing with it, but yet we can't lose the progress we have already made, and we can't completely change everything.

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our country needs alot of change because we are so far in debt and we somehow need to got out of debt

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dena, this is almost exactly what i said, so i agree with you completely

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Mandy, good I'm glad others share my opinion and agree with me, thanks!

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I think that Conservative politics may help our economy more than Liberal because if we were to look to the past, we may be able to come up with solutions to boost our economic issues as we have done in the past. Although, it is still good to have some Liberals as well to have a different point of view, but I think Conservative politics may help more.

noahpaquette(8) Disputed
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you all wrong girl for real ya dig we need new policies fo dem brodas out dare living in the hood living on food stamps ya know what im saying hmmmmm? word to my homies

kschroeder(13) Disputed
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I'm not saying that we don't need to consider more new policies, but I am saying that we should look to the past to see if we can find solutions to our economic problems back in history.

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lilberal becasue we should look to the future and the rich have money so why can't the put it to a good cause.

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liberal because we really need money and its kinda awesome that the rich people are finnally sharing that money

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Ericka i totally agree with you about this, because we do need to look more into the future and not just look at now and the past.

morgankonz(2) Disputed
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but we have to fuigure out whats wrong in the present to and fuigure out what were doing wrong now.

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Liberal because everyhting is changing and when things change you have to either not accept of accept the changes being made.

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i think that the bill thing that Obama is trying to do is sorta good and sorta bad but mi not a millionaire so i think it is good that he will give me money but that just my opinion

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Liberal because change is a good thing and you should be able to accept the change and changes.

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Conservstive, because they believe in their own responsibility, limited government, free markets, their own liberty. They believe that the role of the government should be to give people the freedom to do and have their own goals. They are based on tradition, They prefer a slower process on change than liberal. They want lower taxes and limited government rules.

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I agree because you state that we DO need change, but Conservitives are based on tradition and we cannot let all of that go.

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I agree with this. We didn't have such bad debt in the past, so I think we should use past ideas to fix the problem with out economy.

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We would need a little of both because conservatives like to keep things the way they are, but liberal likes a little change. Some change is good, but we also need to keep things the way they are.

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we should be more conservative because were just wasting all our money and putting us in more dept.

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we need to be more conservative because we are spending wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much money and we are in enough debt already

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concervative because it would be better to give more people jobs than give people work that all ready have jobs becase there are alot of people that are jobless

I think we should have liberal politics because we want change but we also dont want to ruin the progres we have already made as a country. We also dont want to much change to completely change how the U.S. thinks of things.

Side: Liberal Politics
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Conservative because our economy was better in the past. If we stop changing things in government and invest in businesses. Then maybe are economy would come back.

Side: Liberal Politics
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Conservative because they can look at what happened in the past and use that information to help us with our economy.

Side: Liberal Politics
AdamSpradau(13) Disputed
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But if you look to the past we would not have these computers you are using right now.

Side: Liberal Politics
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yes that is true but with computers its just one step closer to the future

Side: Liberal Politics
kstokdyk1(18) Disputed
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Well, i was talking about the government NOT the things we have today. In the past we had the Great Depression, and if we look at what they did then, we will be able to bounce back from the resession today. Plus, i think spending money on people that don't care about having a job and don't have one shouldn't happen because that's making the economy worse.

Side: Liberal Politics
alexkrueger(15) Disputed
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What does that have to do with anything????????????????????????????????

Side: Liberal Politics
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In politics I believe they should be liberal because we should move into the future and start taxing more for people making more money. Forget about the debt and get plans to get out. Help the people with no money to eat, get a job, etc.

Side: Liberal Politics
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we should still be slightly Conservative. things were still good before if it is not broken don't fix it

Side: Liberal Politics
mglander(4) Disputed
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but people already broke it, so we have to find a way to fix it. and the only way to do so is to make changes

Side: Liberal Politics
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i beilieve the country needs to be more liberal in politics we are an evolving country that needs some changes because i dont think the old ways are working with are soceity

Side: Liberal Politics
morgankonz(2) Disputed
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some of the old ways can help us though. and we need to focus on the present not just the future.

Side: Liberal Politics
morgankonz(2) Disputed
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some of the old ways can help us though. and we need to focus on the present not just the future.

Side: Liberal Politics
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Liberal, because we would do more reasearch to find new energy sources and save what we have. ALso to promote peace and human rights. It also supports legal immagration!

Side: Liberal Politics