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Citizenship Final Discussion

This discussion is on student driven topics from the first semester of citizenship at phs. The objectives, procedure, and rubric are on mrarmy.pbworks.com wiki.

 

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oboma should be impeached because we are still in the same hole we were in at the start

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But that doesn't mean the next president will make our country better. For all we know the next president could make it worse.

cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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then why in the world would we get another president think about that

nathankruegr(19) Disputed
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Well then the US should vote for a president that is going to fix the government

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it does mean that we would have a better president because obama is taking a lot of money

BrentThiel(20) Disputed
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Not necessarily Tessa. If we went by that ruling, then all the President's would just be a bunch of hipocrytes. A President IS supposed to make the country better.

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I agree with oyu Tessa. For all anyone knows, if Obama were to get re-elected he could chage everything around. You never know.

I agree! Because Obama is doing some good. He took the military out of Iraq! He has made some good desictions. The next President could take many things away from. We don't know, but it could be possible. I personaly think that the Presidants that we are getting now on these days, are making more of the bad decitions. All the ones that are reconized more are from along time ago. Not now.

bmusiedlak(14) Disputed
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I disagree because i think that we should give him a chance.

cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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FOR THE LAST TIME OBOMA IS A HORIBLE PRESIDENT HE HASNT DONE ANY THING AND HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED IF SCOTT WALKER WOULD BE IN THERE IF WOULD BE ALL GOOD

danlevan(14) Disputed
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I don't think Obama needs a chance; he had 4 years to change this country for the better and where did we go? The opposite direction. We spent more, and fell deeper into debt with him more than any other president this country has seen. Do I think this is ALL necessarily HIS fault? No, but he is partly responsible. I don't think he needs a "chance" because we already gave him one.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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but we arnt thing have changed we are out of irqa and our soldiers have left we have killed osama

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MichaelB1(16) Disputed
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Any president couldv'e been in office when Osama was shot. He just happened to be in office when it happened. He doesn't know what he is doing in office and he should be taken out. He thinks that taxing the rich to give the government money is smart but it's not because it just takes money away from the people that donate to other businesses.

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cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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but we are in a huge whole and probly will never get out and obomas the one who shut the coffin so its only a matter of time before we get nucked or over ran

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nathankruegr(19) Disputed
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but obama said he was going to create more jobs! is there any more jobs! no

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nathankruegr(19) Disputed
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And the governmeat shut down so he didnt help out the government

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cptcrunch(19) Disputed
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leaving iraq isnt exactly a good thing. yes, having the troops come home to their loving familys who missed them is a good thing, but obama pulled out the troops prematurely. the very next day after taking the last troops out of iraq, the iraqi leaders started getting assasinated and bombed by the al-qadea. so obviously the u.s did not complete the job i set out to do in iraq before obama decided to pull them out.

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that is all true. he never helped out the government like he said he would

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bclark(19) Disputed
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Hes been helping us and our government from the start you just have to believe in him if not hows not believing in our president going to help then.

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Agreed. Scott Walker for president!!!! He eis doing the right thing unlike Obama. He is just taxing the wealthy that are actually donating money.

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JonGideon(12) Disputed
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he may be doing the right thing with taxes, but Scott Walker is doing a terrible job with everything else. He is running our state like a dictatorship. He is taking away all of the jobs of public employees. He's barely granted any pardons. He does whatever it takes to get what he wants passed.

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Scott Walker would be a better president then obama! Walker would try to fix the government

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I agree! If he fixed Wisconsin, he could fix the United States. Maybe for once people will actually have good jobs and there wouldn't be layoffs every week

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I agree to this post because scott is doing at least more then Obama.

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lerks6(11) Disputed
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i disagree with you. No scott walker he would be better but we need someone older that knows a lot of stuff

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Heck yeah! Scott Walker fixed the state now lets send him to the white house to fix the country.

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carabardon(15) Disputed
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Scott walker isn't helping anything. Everything that he has done for Wisconsin that in "his eyes" are helping weren't said when he was running for governer. I know for a fact that if he would have said all of the things he was going to do, he would not be governer right now. Three more years of walker will disable our state and we can't afford it. That is the reason for his recall and that is the reason that he is put up for recall. After all there are 1 million signatures. And this article states that. ( http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002000 )

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HuNtER72(17) Disputed
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SCOTT WALKER IS ONE OF THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE I CAN THINK OF. HE SCREWED UP OUR STATE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS HE DID DO A GOOD JOB ON TAKES BUT HE MESSED UP ON THE OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS.

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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i do not agree, because obama came inot office with a lot of stuff to fix from the former president, so in the four years that obama has been in office might not have been enough time to change everything.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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if people agree with that addy then we will see through elections if people think he needs more time then they will elect him again

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MichaelB1(16) Disputed
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Yeah because he hasn't done anything right from the start and if he did, then yeah maybe it wouldn't take time be he is doing nothing right for this country whatsoever.

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I agree with Addy because you can't pass a lot of bills in four years. And having Congress at least agree on them is hard enough.

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BrentThiel(20) Disputed
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Yeah, but they should obviously know that they have a limited time to do what they said they were going to do. He knew what was wrong with the country and aware of everything, so in that case, he should have done what he said he was going to do.

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cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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oboma had 4 years to do something anything all he did was spend money so we coulda had austen run the country

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magchandler2(13) Disputed
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In order to get out of our economic problems, we need more time. I know that it's been a few years since the recession started but people need to be patient. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression, the Great Depression went from 1929 to the late 1930's or early 1940's. That's at least ten years with 25% of Americans being unemployed with a huge market crash. Things are bad, but we are no where near that stage.

While I agree that the government needs to start getting us out of this recession, in order to do this they are going to need time. Obama won't do this in his current term, there is just not enough time. I hope that whoever is elected president, is able to improve the country's economy soon.

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I agree with Maggie. There is not a person out there that can get our country's economy up like we want, in one presidential term. We need to give Obama a chance to change it. Four years is a very little time when talking about getting a huge nation like ours out of recession.

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cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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need more time NOOOOOOOOOO he had plenty of time heis a talker who knows nothing about polotics he is a messed up polotiton

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carabardon(15) Disputed
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I agree with you maggie but to some extent. In order to improve our economy, we need to have a little innovation and certainty from our leaders. Yeah it will need time, but if we focus on giving it time, it might just get worse. We need to point it toward some dirrection, so that we know it will improve.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/10/18/3-things-the-economy-needs-to-recover/

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cjhauser(15) Disputed
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I agree that our nation is in a big hole but we have always been in debt and that started before Obama and no other presidents have helped with it. Obama has helped our nation though. He has gotten the troops out of Iraq, and organised the operation to kill Osama.

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Obama is a stupid president. He could have created jobs by have the oil line ran to the United States. Now that he didnt, more people still dont have a job that gas prices will continue to skyrocket.

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I agree with krametard because obama is a very stupid president

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president kreamer i support you and wiil vote for you this fall and your campain slogan will be( clean up all of obomas mistakes) but that will be hard because hes made so many mastakes

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benwentz6(18) Disputed
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We should stop relying on foreign oil sources and come up with our own natural resources.

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shanaynay151(13) Disputed
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Yea well he may not be doing what he said he would but he hasn't done anthong illegal and look how much money it cost to recall walker, 9MILLION! So doing that would hurt us more finaicially. We don't have much more time left with him and that just shows that in the next election we need to be more careful people don't always keep promises.

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Obama isn't doing our country any good. He said that he would get us out of the hole that were in, but he has done nothing of that. If anything our country has gotten worse when it comes to debt, and the economy.

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danlevan(14) Disputed
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Obama has not done anything specific in order to get himself impeached. Yes, I think he is not helping America at all, but that doesn't mean that we can just take him out of office; you have the chance to do that at the next presidential election. I don't think he did anything he promised to do while campaigning for the presidency, but you can't exactly expect this entire country to pull itself out of debt overnight. It's still going to take a fairly long time to get out of debt, if we ever do.

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If our government was different and didn't have the things we learned about in class, then our government would be crap.

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alexkrueger(15) Disputed
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That doesnt make any sense. What about what we learned and how would it be in a "worse state"?

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glander26(16) Disputed
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no, we were WAYY better before then we are now, if we learn things shouldnt it only get better and not worse?

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alexkrueger(15) Disputed
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not if you have clue what youre talking about to begin with. then youre just making a fool of your self.

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ok maybe this will make more sense: If our goverment didn't have all the branches and other government things, then the United States would've been worse then what is now. Maybe another country would've taken us over already because our government was crap.

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I think that we shouldnt have as may branches because then maybe we wouldnt have as much fighting during bill signings.

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Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of flaws in our goverment but you have to admit, without our branches then things would get choatic. They keep us organized. There are many ways to structuring a government and there is no right or wrong answer but some ways are better than others. At least we can say that there isn't one person calling all of the shots. The branches balance each other, but that's not the problem. The probem is that nothing is being resolved.

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cole meyer(-1) Disputed
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i dont understand what ur trying to say but our goverment is purdy screwed up

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its screwed up really badly! loseing more and more money by the day! one of these days the government has to make money!

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Antifedelist vs. Federlaist-

I think that the U.S. should have a strong state government rather than a strong national government.

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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I agree because in a state government we can focus more on our state and what we need, whereas a national government doesnt always focus on one state, or in other words they dont really care about every single state as much as another state.

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And not every state is the same so we can have laws right for our state, and other states can have laws right for thier state. Also maybe then our country wouldnt be in debt because we could have bills passed to save money for our state to help the ecnomy.

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bmusiedlak(14) Disputed
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I disagree because in order to have a strong state government we need a strong national government

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cjhauser(15) Disputed
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I think we need a strong national government. If our states have more power than our congress and other lawmaking bodies, then they will start going their own ways and making their own lawas and start to think that they will be able to make their own laws and their own desions

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I agree, the Civil War is proof of what can happen if states have too much power. Everybody starts arguing and then you have a war on your hands. A strong central government supports a strong and united front.

"A house divided cannot stand."

-Abraham Lincoln

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Our constitution was made for the states to be run by the Central government. They should have some freedom though so we don't become a country led by on man or one group of people. But we can't just let the states start making their own laws, and currency and other things

Supporting Evidence: National Government over State Government (james4america.wordpress.com)
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i agree because our state has less problems than our national government

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The Death Penalty should be lifted for some capital crimes

Supporting Evidence: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/history-death-penalty (deathpenalty.procon.org)
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jerweigert(17) Disputed
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i think we need more death penalty's. i dont know about you guys but if you kill somone you should die. what else would we do tho, put them into a prison so they can have a gym and three square meals a day? why should the government feed the murderers and not the homeless

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Even with feeding them and a gym, we are wasting more money preparing their deaths by using costly lethal injections and spending thousands of dollars just killing poor people who have no money. And if you kill someone out of self defense when you were being attacked, you shouldn't be punished by death!

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i agree but disagree i think they should not have it but then it depends on what the crim was if the crim was realy big and ddid a lot of damage then maybe but then we also need to but a thin line on whats that is that will but someone to the death sentence

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Death Penalty should be brought back. Public hanging, electrick chair, firing squad. if you kill someone then your life should be taken also. an eye for an eye, hand for a hand. if you steal your hand should be cut off. the crime rate would decrease by so much.

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cjhauser(15) Disputed
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" An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" And again killing someone in self defense or in an accident like falling then pushing someone off a ledge shouldn't result in death. And life in prison is much worse than a quick lethal injection. They do the same thing everyday and are just waiting to die. Keeping them in prison costs much less and killing the com miters of the crime isn't proven more or less effective as life in prison

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I agree because what good is the death penalty when all that does is kill people who done crimes.

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My debate is about human rights. I believe that lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people should have human rights. Until we grant them these rights, they will continue to be looked down on by our society.

LGBT people are common targets for bullying. According to www.bullyingstatistics.org, 28% of gay and lesbian high school students have dropped out in the past three years due to bullying. They should be accepted for who they are because nothing good can come out of bullying.

LGBT people may feel that they need to form a relationship with a certain gender in order to blend in with society. It was estimated by http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-11/15/c_13606900.htm that about 16 million Chinese women are married to gay men. This can cause many problems such as broken hearts and an increase in domestic violence. If the relationship ends in divorce, both are hurt and the straight person could feel paranoid in the future and the gay person is thrust back into a marriage-demanding world.

That person could then spiral into depression, which is very common among homosexual people; 50% of responding lesbians said that they have been depressed sometime in the past two years according to www.nami.org.

In my opinion, LGBT people deserve to have the same rights that we have. They should be allowed to adopt and marry by their own choice. It doesn’t seem right to force people into being someone that they aren’t. In order to deal with our brooder social issues such as discrimination, racism, suicide, and bullying, we need to start somewhere if we want to make accomplishments.

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I agree because I think people should express who and what they are and they shouldnt be judged on it.

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i agree, society is horrible when it comes to those types of things. People are judged on their every moves, and this is wrong. People are who they are, and even if you might not understand why. You have no clue what there lives are like. Except people for who they are.

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You're right, they need rights. If someone would just be nice to them or help them, they will most likely not die. Whenever I turn on the news, there's always something about how they killed themselves. It makes me really sad when that happens. People need to stop bullying!

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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i agree because depite their sexuality they are still human beings, and should be treated like everyone else, because they are like everyone else just with different feelings

Side: LGBT Human Rights
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Everyone deserves the same rights. So what if someone is gay or lesbian. It might be disgusting if they makeout or something but everyone deserves the same rights no matter what.

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alexcalteux1(19) Disputed
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I dont believe that everyone has the same rights because lets say someone that goes to jail for 15 years and gets let out, are you saying that they should have the same rights as someone that was never in jail or never fined for anything?

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i agree. they can express who they are becasue there not going to change. i think its wrong when teachers at a school judge them, and make a big dealabout it, when their the ones who are supposed to be anit bullying

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I do believe that they should have rights however there should be limits. If some families dont believe in that then you should have to see it. Just because guys chose to live that way other people don't have to, some parent dont wanttheir kids exposed to that, so they shouldnt be.

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Exactly. Some parents don't want their children to see that! Some parents don't want their kids to see men and women show PDA, so why should homosexual PDA be different?

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magchandler2(13) Disputed
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So it's ok for straight people to makeout but not ok for gay people? Our society has always shown us the straight relationship but they don't advertise gay relationships. In the real world, you will see a mix of both. People should be exposed to different types of relationships so that they can learn to be accepting and open-minded. By doing this, we are creating a new generation that understands and empathizes.

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ajabuss(15) Disputed
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I believe that lebsbian, gay, and bisexual attraction shouldn't be accepted.

I believe God created man and woman for a reason.

I think homosexual and bisexual people make that choice, they're not born that way.

Gay marriage shouldn't be legal at all, either. God has created man and then woman for a reason....not two women or two men.

I don't have any against the individuals. I have something against the homosexual attraction/marriage being legal, and I don't want to see that in public. If you're gonna be that way, then keep it at home.

Some homosexuals in schools argue that when they do show PDA, people make them stop just because they are discriminating against homosexuals. Heterosexuals are not allowed to show attraction at school, so neither should they.

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Exactly when parents are religous and we are all children of adam and eve (it wasnt 2 guys or 2 girls it was 1 of each) then they should hae the choice wether or not to expose there children to guys, not see it in every public place. Being straight is the way things are supposed to be. It was how it was meant to be so the human race keeps living and continuing on.

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msikora(11) Disputed
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i think you are 100% wrong beacuse ,for one, not everyone belives in that and its a feeling in your heart just like how you have a crush on someone and people like that ant realy help it some people believe it can be caused by tratumatic experices as a child but i believe they all should have the some wrights as everyone else.

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I believe this too, Our country was founded on God so why should we start going agaisnst him? There is nothing wrong with the people, just their beliefs are what I do not like. I also agree that they should not show PDA in the hallways, but that also goes for anyone.

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MandySmith1(16) Disputed
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Aja..

I think that it is okay for someone to be Gay, Lesbian, Or Bisexual, because i think that people should just be with people that they like and are happy to be with, even if it is the sam sex. So i think that same sex marriage should be legal in all states.

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I think everyone should have the same rights as the next person. Just because you are a man and like another man or a woman in love with a woman, it is totally personal preference. it is their lives and they can live it the way they want to. No one has any right to tell people what they can and can not do.

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Things will get way more complicated if LGBT people don't get their rights. We were all told at some point that we should just be ourseleves. By not giving them their rights, you are taking away their ability for people to just be themseleves.

This can lead to terrible things like sucide, a common thing for gay people. Read the story of Tyler Clementi here: http://www.livescience.com/8734-gay-teen-suicide-epidemic.html

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I agree that gays, lebians, bisexual, and transgender should have the same rights as other people. Just because they are different than other people doesnt mean that they can have the same rights.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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agree they are still humans there just belive in something differnt then we are. its like saying if your luthern and thats different from being christins so they sould be treated differnt

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i agree. i personally love gay people and to see some of my best friends who are gey get bullyed it hurt becasue they did nothing wrong and its their life.

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I agree. All people no matter what their beliefs are are people. They should have the same rights and be treated and looked at no different than any other person. If you don't like the idea of gay marriage then don't get married to the same sex. We don't want our rights taken away and we shouldn't start taking away oother peoples right because they belief in something different.

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i agree, they all should be treated the same. They should not be getting bullied for who they like. They should not be judged just because they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender they did not do anything wrong to get bullied that is just not right.

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Gays should have the same right as everyone else. It just doesn’t seem right to take away such basic rights from people who are just the same as the rest of us. Having a different sexuality should not set them apart.

Some people believe that being gay is wrong and should not be allowed. It is also against some people’s religion. Some people even argue that anyone can choose their sexuality and that gays choose to be gay, but I dont believe thats true. Why would people choose to be gay when life as a gay in today's society is so hard?

http://www.bidstrup.com/marriage.htm

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kflanagan(16) Disputed
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I dont care who you like or what you like but you should not advertise it. If you are gay, straight, lesbion, whatever you shouldnt show it in public. Im saying that people discriminate against gays more because that is not how things started and not "natural" in some peopls mind.

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carmello1515(10) Disputed
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oh here is another copy and paste so im not the only one so dont copy and paste if i cant do it you cant

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carmello1515(10) Disputed
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ohhh you copied and pasted its a big deal sombody should see this

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I TOTALLY SUPPORT YOU IN EVERY WAY BECAUSE WHY SHOULD OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU WHO YOU CAN AND CANT BE WITH..THATS LIKE ME TELLING YOU THAT YOU CANT EVER DO ANYTHING WITH A GIRL..OR TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY CANT ACTUALLY LIVE THEIR OWN LIVES.

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dustinbarber(10) Disputed
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i agree they should be treated like any other person who cares if your gay bisexual or transgender people should be able to be who they want to be and we should not be able to tell them different what happend to a free country what happend to equal rights its so messed up how are government treats these people when they are humans just like every one else

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Exactly Maggie! Every person should get treated the same way, their sexuality shouldn't be a factor. There's no reason why we can't treat LGBT people the same way we treat heterosexual people! Two of my friends that I know of are homosexual, and they are awesome people! They don't have a problem with the way others think about them, because they are proud to be who they are, and I think that's a great thing!

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I belive weed should be legalized it could help out ecomney becuse, if you sold it in stores just by doing that more money can be raised its a plant so you dont need to by anything to make it, and not only by just selling it in stores it would help are money crisses beacuse people you go out and buy food (also know as "the munchies"), raising the food consuming and if we replace, lets say beer with weed, by slowly takeing the hops out of beer then eventualy getting rid of it all toghether and replacing it with weed thare would be, less drunk driving, less deaths on the roads, and a spike in food and if we just stop using credit cards we could be out of dept in 20 years or less in my oppion and with beer, the argument againnst weed is that you can get addicted to it, you can you may want to get high but you cant get addicted the the metirial, with beer you can get addicited to the material and wanting to get drunk. Also thare been studies saying thare nothing wrong with weed on your body.

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kflanagan(16) Disputed
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Even if it is not unhealthy for you, it still impairs your senses. It is still a drug and should not be llegal. Other drugs arent so nither should weed.

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msikora(11) Disputed
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its not a drug its a plant and it just grows drugs you have to alter and put stuff in weed is just thare

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Weed shouldn't be llegalized with the exception of medical purposes. I don't know how the country would make that law but they would have to be strict. It should only be accessible with a doctor's perscription.

http://altmed.creighton.edu/medicalmarijuana/Clinical%20Use.htm

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dustinbarber(10) Disputed
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if anything that impares your sences was illegal coffie would be illegal alcohol and cigaretts would be illegal

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I agree with Katelyn, even though it does not harm you, when your senses are mixed up you will probably do some stupid things. So it should stay illegal.

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i agree katelyn! a drug is a drug, its illegal, so leave it that way, people say they need it for "medical reasons" and yea sometimes i guess they do, but that has become the main excuse now!

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shanaynay151(13) Disputed
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Yea and what does alcohol do???? Yea thats right same thing so don't make an arugment the doesnt make sense weed Alcohol practicay are equal except weed is better for u!

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i agree it is not a very harmful drug. in the long run it is more healthy then soda. if you smoke one thing of weed it is less harmful then drinking one bottle of coke a day

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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i do not agree because it is a harmful drug and people can find better ways to make them selves feel better or whatever it is that weed does for you.

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lerks6(11) Disputed
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i disagree that is so stupid that makes no sence levi. Coke is way worse

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2 points

yes that is very true and you should look at what coke does to you within the hour.

Supporting Evidence: coke (www.nutritionresearchcenter.org)
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cole meyer(-1) Disputed
2 points

you dont need to smoke weed or drink soda or smoke cok you dont need any of that stuff

Side: citizenship final discussion
MadisonJewel(13) Disputed
2 points

The problem with weed is it impairs your judgement and what influences you. when on weed your thoughts are clouded. It is hard to stop people from smoking it becasue it is so easy to get and there is so much of it.

Side: citizenship final discussion

making it legalized would just make the situation worse...it doenst mean that smoking it is now good for you, it just makes a lot less people in trouble because its not against the law & it makes it easier to get the weed.

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

I agree that if it was legalized, our economy would benefit from it. But it would cause thousands of deaths from overdosing and should be sold limitedly. It isn't harmful occasionally but many people would abuse it and then it would become harmful

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

you cant overdose from it and a igree it should be sold with restirivtions and it doesent cloud yours scences at all

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

in order to overdose on weed you have to smoke your body weight in 10 minutes!

Side: citizenship final discussion
shanaynay151(13) Disputed
1 point

You can't overdose and same as alcohol , ABUSE IT LOOSE IT

Side: citizenship final discussion
alexkrueger(15) Disputed
2 points

Even if it was legalized, you would have to be 18 to be able to do it.

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

I think you just shouldnt do drugs in the first place so you can be healthy either way.

Side: citizenship final discussion
dustinbarber(10) Disputed
1 point

in the first place cannabis in not a drug its a plant with many medical uses. useing cannabis does not make you unhealthy it gives you a 60% less chance of getting cancer. you want to know what drugs are what doctors give you for pain what they give you for depression you get addicted so easaily to these drugs and they kill you but there ok to give away to people that are sick or in pain rather than a plant that will only make you better not get you even more sick. these so called medicines destroy your body and can lead to addiction witch will lead to death or being in jail

Side: citizenship final discussion

no kidding, although a lot of researchers say that drugs wont have long-term affects on your health, thats also proven incorrect. if it were good for you, it wouldnt be against the law...

Side: citizenship final discussion
BrentThiel(20) Disputed
1 point

Even though research and tests show that weed doesn't necessarily affect you, it's still a drug and it promotes a bad message.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

but it can also be much better than many other things or drugs. like alcohol and cigs and what not.

Side: citizenship final discussion

As with any substacne you se there are ups and down but the truth is weed when used recreationally is better the alcohol and ciggarettes. ITs has less harmful effects and does the same thing as alcohol. If weed is so bad than so is alcohol. They say weed clouds your judgment wel so does alcohol, only differenc weed doesnt lasst as long and doesnt make your body get sick. Plus you can't overdose on weed like you can pills or alchol ( alcohol posioning)

Side: citizenship final discussion
juliannajj(19) Disputed
1 point

i agree with you but it is still illegal. So are you saying that weed shouldnt be illegal?

Side: citizenship final discussion

I agree that it would help the economy with money. But to many people would abuse it. And then that would just cause a bigger problem. So I disagree because people would abuse it too much, weed isn't always really good just because it came from the earth s a plant too. But I also agree because the economy would gain more money from it.

Supporting Evidence: Turns out weed is bad for you! (gawker.com)
Side: citizenship final discussion
danlevan(14) Disputed
1 point

For any reason other than medicinal purposes, I don't think that weed should be legalized. Is there any reason why people have to get high to feel better if they are not terminally ill? I don't think so. Scientists can say anything they want to say about how weed affects the human body, but it is not healthy for you. They may say that there are no discernable results from smoking weed, but you can't say that you benefit from it. Weed impairs your senses and reaction time, and alcohol does the same thing to your body. But weed and alcohol are still two different things and you can't compare those two things together.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/28/ opinion/la-oe-miller28-2010jan28

Side: citizenship final discussion
HuNtER72(17) Disputed
1 point

THE ONLY REASON YOU WANT IT LEGALIZED IS BECAUSE YOU SMOKE IT AND LOOK WERE YOU WENT IM SORRY MICHEAL BUT THIS IS VERY BAD STUFF. IF I SMOKED IT I WOULD BE ON A MASSIVE RAMPAGE. WEED KILLS MILLIONS OF KIDS AND SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD KIDS. WEED SHOULD NEVER BE LEGALIZED.

Side: citizenship final discussion
dustinbarber(10) Disputed
1 point

sorry to say but every thing you just said has been proven in tests by the instittute of medicine to be comptetly false information in the last 10000 years of recorded history there has never been 1 death due to use of the cannabis plant

Side: citizenship final discussion
kschroeder(13) Disputed
1 point

I understand how you see it as helping the economy, but weed can impair your judgement. If weed was made legal, how many people would we have running around with impaired judgement. Everything would be chaos, and if there are crimes commited, how many people are going to claim that they can't be held responsible because they were on weed? It would be a very bad thing if weed was legalized.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with this. We have so many stoners already. i have nothing against them, But if everyone could just go and get high? Just think of how or society would turn out. Lots of bad things would be happening, and it IS the gateway drug. Many people argue its not, but what happens when your "high" dies out, or isn't good enough? Then what do you do. You resort to cocaine and meth and acid. Ya, and those things are TOTALLY good for you..

Side: citizenship final discussion
MandySmith1(16) Disputed
1 point

I think that Weed shouldn't be llegalized with the exception of medical purposes. I don't know how the country would make this law but they would have to be strict. It should only be accessible with a doctor's perscription.

http://altmed.creighton.edu/medicalmarijuana/Clinical%20Use.htm

Side: citizenship final discussion
MorganK(12) Disputed
1 point

What the heck!, weed should not be legal people are just going to use it to get high and the US is going to have more of a drug problems!!

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with you completely, Morgan. For the majority of people in the United States, the legalization of weed will not mean relief from a terminal illness (i.e. medical usage)

but the abuse of weed and the mere consumption of it for pleasure. I really don't think weed has to be legalized for any reason other than medicinal purposes, because people do not need weed for any reason other than that.

Side: citizenship final discussion
mbarnard(8) Disputed
1 point

no it shound't be because than everyone will be doing it and you will get lung canccer more likey.

Side: michael barnard
carabardon(15) Disputed
1 point

Weed should not be legalized.. it does nothing to improve human life.. it just makes you all impaired and crap and weird. You can find other ways to make money..

Side: michael barnard
carabardon(15) Disputed
1 point

Weed should not be legalized.. it does nothing to improve human life.. it just makes you all impaired and crap and weird. You can find other ways to make money..

Side: michael barnard

youre right, legalizing it is going to cause more problems with the health of the people of our generation.

Side: michael barnard
2 points

Anyones oppion on scott walker? ( only if you acutaly know what your talking about)

Side: the Walker recall
2 points

We also need to not increase taxes on everyone. The rich help keep our economy going, and everyone should get to keep more of the money we earn. Taxes take away a lot of money, and it would help our economy out if people had a bit more of their money to spend or use as they wish. President Ronald Reagan: "We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much”

Side: the Walker recall

Tax should be totally based on how much money you make. that means the rich should have increased taxes and shouldnt be able to get out of taxes with loopholes

Side: the Walker recall
1 point

I agree Maddie! If you don't have that much money.. then you shouldn't be taxed so much, but if you have lots of money than you should be taxed more. In this article it states that 71% of the wealthy agree that the millionares should pay more taxes and give more to charity. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-17/buffett-tax-on-wealthy-backed-by-millionaires-if-they-re-exempt.html

Side: the Walker recall
2 points

Walker is helping Wisconsin. If people would just give him more time, he could do even more. Think about it. In about a year, Walker has helped everyone. Don't believe me? Then go check out his wesite. Then you can see what he has in store for Wisconsin.

Supporting Evidence: Scott Walker (www.scottwalker.org)
Side: the Walker recall
2 points

i agree he is doing much for wisconsin. i think we should keep him and see what else he will do for us.

Supporting Evidence: scott walker (www.standwithscott.com)
Side: the Walker recall
2 points

before walker wisconsin was down 150,000 jobs since walker wisconsin has added thousands of jobs and nobody will recognise that. he has done so much good for wisconsin but people think he is destroying wisconsin because the democrats dont like him.

Side: the Walker recall
1 point

Agreed. Scott Walker turned this state from a Ford Pinto to a Stingray

Side: the Walker recall
1 point

Exactly, he has done more good than bad. Oue economy hasn't gotten worse so why are people so agaisnt him? I think that WI has to give him more time, and if things start going bad then MAYBE he could be removed, but that's only a maybe.

Side: the Walker recall
HuNtER72(17) Disputed
1 point

NO HE HAS HAD HIS TIME AND HE MESSED UP LIKE USUAL HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO RUN OUR STATE THE RIGHT WAY..I CAN RUN THIS BETTER THEN HIM AND CREATE JOBS AND MAKE BETTER TAXES AND SAVE MONEY HE IS JUST PLAIN STUPID

Side: the Walker recall
2 points

Mitt Romney is in front of everyone for the candidates for the 2012 presidential election. Mitt is in front of everyone for a reason!

Supporting Evidence: 2012 Presidential Election (2012.presidential-candidates.org)
Side: the Walker recall
2 points

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/ 16/house-to-vote-on-concealed-firearm-permit-bill/

article on concealed carry, definetly a good thing for wisconsin, there should be no ristrictions on what people do with their firearms.

Side: the Walker recall
AprilMarie15(17) Disputed
1 point

i disagree. I think that people should not be allowed to carry weapons because uk how many people are gunna get shot?! There is a lot of violence and stupid people in this state so i think when they make a law that makes carrying weapons is fine.

Side: the Walker recall
danlevan(14) Disputed
1 point

Sorry April, but I have to disagree with you on this one. In order to get a concealed carry permit, a person must pass a background check and pay a fee. With such a great responsibility attached to this permit, any infraction such as misuse would be punished severely. If a person who had a concealed carry permit decided to, for some reason, shoot an innocent person, you can be certain that the shooter would go to jail and possibly recieve a death sentence. People who carry a concealed weapon do so because they want to prevent crime, not start it.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
kschroeder(13) Disputed
1 point

I feel like it is very important for there to be a restriction on what people do with their firearms. If there were no restrictions on what people do with their firearms, it would be like saying that it's okay to shoot people. That is not right.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

With our country being in so much debt, it makes me sick how much professional athletes make. millions of dollars to play a game. a game kids play all the time. Then they are having this lockdown becasue they want more money

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
addymiller(12) Disputed
2 points

yea i think athletes should not make so much money because they dicided to do that job, for whatever reason, but it should be because they love the game, so they should not be paid so much for playing a sport when really its a job, so in that cause everyone should be paid like they do

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
alexcalteux1(19) Disputed
2 points

What do you think holds the country together? If sports didnt exists what would people do? Athletes make the money they make because for one: they are one of the best athletes in the world thats why they make the money they do. Two: They could get seriously hurt, they are risking their physical health and well being to play football or hockey.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit

Yea that is so true they are so immature they should be happy with the life they had maybe send them to a third world country and make them think. It's stupid.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

Cam Newton won the NFL rookie of the year. Cam will be a Hall of Famer in a couple years. Mark my words. Then after Cam Newton will be the president of the United States after Mitt Ronmey.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

why does everyone hate on obama he got left with the crap that bush left him. he started in the hole people voted for him at first but know they change their minds it is not his fault people cant decide what they want.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
glander26(16) Disputed
2 points

still he made us momre into debt and he cant get us out of it and in stead of trying to get money he just wates more money

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

I believe that marijauna should not be legal. We have TONS of other drugs out there, and it's only to increase appeptite, not to actually serve as a cure. Weed is a drug for people that want to get high. Just get outta here....go do it illegally if you're gonna do it. We have no reason for it to be llegal. Most people just want it to get high, and it's twice as bad for your lungs than tobacco is.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
cptcrunch(19) Disputed
2 points

making drugs illegal is a waste of money and resources, there is no reason to NOT make them legal. people shuld have the choice of what they want to do with their body, the government should not be telling peope what the can do to themselves. if they want to do it, then they should be able to do it, and their probably going to do it anyway. its also terrible that the minimum sentence for murder is less then you can get for posession of marajuana.--http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/19/former-tv-skipper-gets-jail-in-fatal-alaska-crash/--possession of drugs can get you over 16 years.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
dustinbarber(10) Disputed
1 point

i totaly disagree with you not all drugs should be legal there would be so many crimes going on murder theft rape chemical drugs like crack herawin cocain all that stuff are just tarable i dont understand why someone would think things like this should be legal the only reason cannabis should be legal is because there are many good possative uses for it and all other drugs do not have any possative affects at all

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

conceal and carry is a good law because wisconsin is the 49'th state out of 50 to make a law of conceal and carry. the national rifle association reported this. if most stats made a law like this it must me a good law to have

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

I predict there will be a second civil war. every year our country grows more and more apart. the gap between the rich and poor grow and more and more riots are breaking out.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

I agree Maddie. Our country is so segragated when it comes to beliefs and opinions. It keeps driving us farther and farther apart..we have a shattered when it comes to being one country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shattered_Union

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/alien_WU7CcuvTMg4n2yBzWqSPMI

i do not beleive illegal aleins should have any rights whatsoever, coming here illegaly forfited any rights you might have had. i also dontbelieve that illegal immagrants should be able to become a citizen by crossing the border illegally, and having a baby.the government should still kick them out.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
2 points

My topic is Abortion and whether it should be legalized or illegal. I think it should be illegal because you are killing a baby and thats not right.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

I agree with your opinion, because i personally think that if you think you are old enough to have sex then, you should be old enough to become a parent, the only way i think it would be okay is if the girl was raped and really wasn't ready to become a parent

Side: citizenship final discussion
carabardon(15) Disputed
1 point

This link has changed my viewpoint... http://www.lifenews.com/2010/04/05/nat-6223/

It states that women who go through sexual assault don't want abortion because it gives them more trauma.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Yeah, the woman shouldnt have to go through any more traumatic things happening in her life. Even though she has to go through the pregnancy she doesnt have to keep the baby. She would feel worse for killing it then giving it life and giving it to a family who will love it.

Side: citizenship final discussion
danlevan(14) Disputed
1 point

Such a controversial topic, Morgan... I agree with you that you shouldn't have the right to take the life of a human being before it is born. But then again we have the case in which the woman was raped, and has no means to support the child, nor a want/will/desire/etc. Should she have to go through with the pregnancy? If you say yes, then you are forcing on her the burden of childbirth and either putting the newborn up for adoption or caring for it. If you say no, then the human being will lose its life... to be honest, I couldn't decide one way or the other.

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/comm/free_speech/tinker.html

This link backs up my opinion and explains how they weren’t disrupting anything or anyone, so why make big deal about it

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

I would like to bring up the controversial topic of Abortion. I think that abortion is more of a crime than a solution to pregnancy. I don't think that a baby's life should be taken away because someone else's life did. Also, there are other altenatives to abortion like adoption, parenting classes, and financial aid and stuff.

http://www.dailyorange.com/2.8691/abortion-is-one-of-the-most-controversial-issues-in-america-1.1241310

http://www.policyalmanac.org/social_welfare/homeless.shtml

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

yes i agree with you brent on how abortion is wrong to do. No matter if the mom wants to have to baby. If she doesn't want to have it than why don't the at least have it removedd from the mom.

Side: michael barnard
1 point

very true i mean people go to jail for murder like all the time. what about thtose moms that aborted there baby's isnt that murder too. and the doctors who did the operarion. plus it was illegal to abort before and possibly since then our contry has gone down hill from there.

Side: citizenship final discussion
2 points

I believe in the death penalty, but to a certain point. Some prisons take it too far, but if a murderer has killed more than one person after being let out of jail I think she should be put to death. Some people are mentally insane, but I do think everyone deserves a second chance, no matter what. This isn't a very popular topic, but it annoys me that it's not legal in a lot of places. I don't want serial killers in our state, or even in our world. I don't care if they're "Safely locked away." i have no idea what their living conditions are, and if I'm safe. They're are lots of ways they can escape no matter what people say. It makes me scared. The death penalty should be legal everywhere so family can feel more safe in there homes. I think it would also scare people enough so more people might think twice before they go on a killing spree.

Side: citizenship final discussion
efohr(40) Disputed
1 point

What if you were in this situation, you want to be killed? No, I didn't think so. So I disagree with the death penalty. Prisoners do take it to far, but then they should get help for that. Not get killed right away. If one of your family member was a prisoner I'm sure you wouldn't want them dead even though there a problem. You would want to protect them.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I would deserve to die. Completely. I JUST said, that after the first time. You really think its okay to kill a bunch of people? No. It's really not. I wouldn't want to protect them. If one of my family members where in this situation, yes it would be sad. But sadly they would deserve it. Your post is dumb. I think this should be legal.

Side: citizenship final discussion
danlevan(14) Disputed
1 point

But sometimes the only punishment that is suitable for a person's crimes is the death penalty. Take, for example, Ted Bundy, the mass murder. He died on January 24, 1989 in an electric chair. You can't say he didn't deserve to die after taking the lives of over 30 other people!

Side: citizenship final discussion
elisesuttner(18) Disputed
1 point

I wish I could say I agree with that, but I can't say that death is ever the better decision. You are probably safer when serial killers are locked away than you realize. Wouldn't prision for life be a worse punishment anyway? You have to live with your decisions.

Side: citizenship final discussion
MorganK(12) Disputed
1 point

I think that you are wrong because you wouldnt be safer because people in jail can always be let out of jail. But i do agree that it would be a worse punishment, but i think that the persons family who got murdered would rather feel safe knowing that the person who took their families life is no longer alive.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

No elise. No. I accidently put this in supporting but that was on accident obvziz!!!!! If you're locked away, you could be given a life-sentence, but you also could be given a year amount term. Which just keeps them away for a while.. what if theyre let out of prison and go back to killing again. It is not safe to have serial killers walking around!! That means that you could be sitting right next to one right now and not even know it, i mean look behind you

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with this because the reality is that if the person has killed more than once, obviously they don't care about human life, so I believe that it is right for them to get the death penalty. I think that if someone is a repeat offender that they really shouldn't be given another chance to ruin people's lives.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Exactly. and thats what I'm trying to say elise and liz. If you are repeatedly killing people, your honestly asking to be put to death. A lot of serial killers are mentally insane anyways. I don't want them around my family, one person or two people? Fine be put in jail and deal with the guilt. But more than that? Are you serious Elise and Liz? Thats just not humanly right. Think about what all these people are going through, and that person is sitting there laughing about it. Thats NOT okay.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i agree because if the person is in jail for killing someone, i think that it would be okay to say that you don't deserve a second chance. Think about it i mean it could help cut down the number of murders we have in our state or country or world what ever.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree i think that sometimes they dont really deserve it because some might have mental illnesses, but i think it should be legal because people should pay for killing people by them being killed, its just fair.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

The US/Mexico border should be monitored more on the United States side.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Agreed because there are too many people being able to jump it and start lives over in the U.S. The mexicans should go get a passport if they really want to cross the border that bad. If they can't afford one... sad times.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I argree Michael a lot of the times, mexicans come here to start over.. but that can become a little judgemental.. because not all mexicans are like that. They are all judged just because of their herritage.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with this. We are letting them into our country and cross the border way to easily. Some of them are criminals and getting into our country as free men. If we see them crossing the border, we should take authority and shoot them down.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i agree with this because they are getting into our country and distroying it and crimianals are going to jail. I think if they cross the border we should shoot them down.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i totally agre, states such as texas go broke because they have to spend millons each year patroling the border, when most mexicans get accross anyways and the ones who are caught just get back to mexico and try to cross again. i think that the u.s should have a policy on shooting down illegal immigrants as soon as we see them crossing the border. this would save lots money going into patrols, jails, and shipping them back to mexico

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree strongly. We need to more strongly prevent illegal immigrants from coming here. Our economy is frail and we do not need them taking more and more jobs that Americans could have right now. It's very bad and they need to be shot down.

Side: citizenship final discussion

i agree theres way to many coming over and taking all the jobs

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i also agree because they are all taking our jobs and we dont get the jobs then.

Side: citizenship final discussion
jerweigert(17) Disputed
1 point

The immigrants get the jobs because were lazy and they know that you have to work to get things. they get the jobs because they work for them and dont just expect them.

Side: citizenship final discussion
addymiller(12) Disputed
1 point

I agree because more and more people coming across the border are coming into our country and taking the jobs out of americans hands.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Yeah really. If they wanted to be in the U.S., get a passport because they will be caught at some point. They shouldn't be jumping the border. It takes away the jobs we provide for Americans.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree because Long ago if they would come to the US they would have to learn english and some mexicans are not very friendly..... most, I think, cause all the trouble...

Side: citizenship final discussion
cole meyer(-1) Disputed
1 point

true but they shouldnt be allowed in hear because the more we let in the more people we have hear and we dont have enough jobs so letting them in would cause higher crime rates

Side: citizenship final discussion
anjetzer(14) Disputed
1 point

agree i think there are still to many people that are still geting over the board and that drugs are geting smuged

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree again because there is alot of people in the US as there is.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i agree there is way to many people and the mexican should stop crossing the border.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree, if they weren't able to cross the border, we'd have more jobs. Many people that come over don't even learn English and they kill people when they come over!!!!!!

Side: citizenship final discussion
alexcalteux1(19) Disputed
1 point

I believe that people shouldnt be able to come into this country and think that they are free and able to do anything they want when they arent even legal. I think that we should have soldiers protecting the border.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree they are taking jobs without education and don't even know our language but think they can live here. They are all criminals and the link is for the Pros and Cons of boder control

Supporting Evidence: Pros&Cons;Of Border Control (immigration.about.com)
Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

agreed, more people are comming over and thats causing more trouble for us that we can handle. it also starts more gangs and fight and shooting. badddd mexicans

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I think that it is a good thing that we use computers for Citizenship calss. It can make our research even better, so that we can learn more.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree because there is alot on the computer which means there is alot to learn.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I also agree because computers are way more interesting than a paper. and also you can lose a computer as easy as a paper

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with this. Not only are these computers helping us learn and take lessons and find information online, we are saving paper and everything we write or talk about we have on our computer. We dont have to shuffle through papers or folders to find an assignment

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Abortion-

I think that girls should get abortion if she gets raped or is too young to take care for that baby. Girls that just don’t want a baby shouldn’t get an abortion because they are pretty much killing that baby. I also think its the women's choice because its their body.

Side: citizenship final discussion
addymiller(12) Disputed
1 point

I agree with abortion if a girl gets raped, but if a girl finds out that she is pregnant, i think they should have to choice to have an abortion, because they might not be able to provide for it and give the baby the life it deserves.

Side: citizenship final discussion
cole meyer(-1) Disputed
1 point

aboshion is unaceptible because ur kill a person and if you get raped you should of hit the gym so u coulda beet them up

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree with this because some girls might not have the money for the propper care of a baby. But I also think that there should be a limit on how many times you can get an abortion because other wise some girls might abuse the power of abortion.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree Tessa! if youre raped..and you're 16 years old. How can anyone expect you to pay for the baby and go through the pain. It's not right. There are certain limits to who should be able to abort though for sure!

Side: citizenship final discussion
glander26(16) Disputed
1 point

i agree. its one thing to do it on purpos and abort it, thats wrong, but if a girl gets raped shes not ready for it, and its a big responsability for her to take care of it

Side: citizenship final discussion
MichaelB1(16) Disputed
1 point

She could be too young to take care of it but that doesn't mean that adoption isn't an option.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

i think abortion is fine, and that it should be the girls choice of what she wants to do. i see it as having four choices: having the baby and raising it yourself,giving up the baby for adoption, sending the baby to a foster home, or getting it aborted, i have no problem with any of theese options. i dont think that the government shoud get in they way of that, and tell women what they have to do with their baby.

Side: citizenship final discussion
alexcalteux1(19) Disputed
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Abortion is not fine!! Girls shouldnt have the right to kill a baby. If they dont want a baby to care for or give it for adoption, then they shouldnt have sex, and should really care for themselves and make sure there is no possible way that they would get raped.

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dustinbarber(10) Disputed
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i think abortion is just tarable why have unprotected sex if you dont want to take the risk of getting pregnent they make condoms for a reason dont do it if you dont want a kid its not cool to kill babys just because you were to ignorint to be safe.

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cjhauser(15) Disputed
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Abortion is used as BIRTH CONTROL, in our country. Less than 1/5 of the abortion cases are because of rape. Most of them are unplanned pregnancy's and they just use abortion so they don't have the responsibility of taking care of the baby. They should at least try to supported it and not just get an abortion right away

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

In the despute with Bethel vs. Matt Fraser, I completely agree with the decision that the supreme court ruled, in that freedom of speech only works when it does not disrupt the learning of others.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I think that the court should've voted for Matt Fraser. Because he has the right of speech and can say anything he wants. They were not in class at the time, so people's learning wan't disrupted.

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i also think that the case should have gone to faser. you have the right to say what you want, you cant always determine what a person really meant by what they said. fasers speech could be viewed as appropriate or border-line inapropriate, but i do not think that is was inappropriate enough to take away his right of free speech in his senior graduation.

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I think you are right there, Addy. There's no reason why Matt Fraser had to write his speech the way he did, or deliver it in the manner which he did. His choice to do so disrupted the learning of others, and so I agree with the Supreme Court's decision. Fraser overexercised his freedom of speech and did so unnecessarily.

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I think that Scott Walker shouldn't be recalled because he is saving us 30 million dollars and over 2 years, 300 million dollars. All government workers are crying because they didn't have to pay healthcare before like everyone else and now they have to start paying it like they should've.

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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i agree because Scott Walker actually took action and did something about it, and in my mind made it more fair in the way that everyone now has to pay for healthcare

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Yeah. I think that people should stop crying just because they have to pay for healthcare. Too bad, because now they are just like everyone else.

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I agree, he has saved the state so much money with the budget repair bill. These gorvernment workers are having a hissy fit becasue they have to pay like everyone else does. There is so much money going into this recall effort and it is so stupid. Suck it up and work like everyone else has to.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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Michael it was teachers like those people that were not haveing to pay for there healthcare thats why if you remeber all the teachers last year always were taking about it

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree Scott Walker has saved Wisconsin a lot of money. We were in major debt and Scott Walker helped us out of it. Other jobs don't allow paid HealthCare and other jobs shouldn't either. Right now he is helping this state move forward.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Walker just made everything equal for everyone. Now, everyone has to pay health care and all the other union things. Walker is moving Wisconsin forward more then he is moving it back. Walker should NOT be recalled

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

I agree that scott walker should not be recalled he is moving us foward

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I agree Kassi. To be honest, he did everything he said he was going to do when the people of Wisconsin elected him. It's not like they didn't know what was coming or what was going ot happen. I just think that the whole thing is stupid. I saw some people in front of Walmart holding up recall Walker signs. So dumb, what a waste of time.

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there should be no recall for walker because its a big waste of money and he is makeing the state better but its taking him a long time

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1 point

I agree, Walker is helping our state, not hurting it. He's making the economy better

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1 point

If people just wait a little longer, everthying will come into place and he will fix the state. He is doing absolutely nothing wrong at running our government.

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correct, the tea recall and wall street protests have cost the government thousands that could have been put into schools but instead are spent on something else created by thee protests.

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glander26(16) Disputed
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why does it matter we already wasted alot of money on him. what if he doesnt make it better like obama was trying adn we used a lot of money to try adn make it better and its still not

Side: citizenship final discussion
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Agreed. It's taking a long time because the plan is supposed to take time and it will make everything better in the end.

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addymiller(12) Disputed
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i agree because the whole recall thing is absolutley rediculous. We dont have the money to be recalling someone who helped our economy and continues to help us.

Side: citizenship final discussion
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Yeah, they are faking a lot of the signatures, like one is Hitler and another is Mickey Mouse. That's screwed up! Plus to make it look ligit, they add adresses that arn't even their's. People get a life!

Side: citizenship final discussion
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this is a link to an article about sopa--http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/01/18/sopa-what-it-is-and-why-its-bad/

sopa is a bill that would restrict and censor the internet in an atempt to stop internet piracy and scams. The bill is being protested by large internets sites and browsers such as google, and wikipedia this is because the bill alows to much control and censorship by the government. that is why i dont think that the bill will be passed until more rstrictions are plassed on the bill to prevent eexcessive government conrol.

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I believe that Sopa shouldn't be passed. If we allow the government to censor and edit the Internet, we will be told lies and any the news will be twisted and incorrect. They will block out any secrets or conspiracies that may led people agaisnt want they are doing

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The 2012 Presidential electons are coming up and I think Mitt Romney will win. I think our country needs a change and Mitt Romney can do this. I believe this is because Mitt Romney is a moderate republican meaning he is farther toward the status quo instead of being more of a conservative. I think the U.S. needs a president like this, instead of going from one extreme to the other and messing things up even more.

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I agree that he should be president too. He will most likely be president because he is more in the middle. People that are in the status quo are most likely to vote for him and not Obama

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1 point

Agreed. He would be a lot better than Barrack Osama. Romney knows what he is talking about and will do well for this country.

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1 point

I agree because I think we need some better changes We havent really gotten far with the president now.

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1 point

Also, our government would be worse like Greece. Greece needs other countries to bail it out, and we don't want to become like Greece.

read this article to learn more about the situation in Greece

Supporting Evidence: Greece Bailout (www.cbc.ca)
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1 point

Can bullying always be a bad thing? if you think about it, some people use bullying as a way to make them stronger themselves. yeah it still may hurt them inside but you never really knoe if it does hurt thm or not.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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it AWAYS will hert people, but the reason why its a big thing is because you here about the bullying that ends up with somone dying unless your Tim Tebow and take those bad things and uses them as fuel

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1 point

I disagree that why people make fun of him because he is christian a lot of people are christians.

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1 point

actually no. you dont just head about the bad thing FYI. you hear about everything its just inly the bad things end up on the news. it may not aLWAYS hurt people.. why dont you go as some people who have been bullied and see if it does hurt them. they might actually say it made them tronger. think

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I don't think bullying is always a bad thing. People do grow strong and learn from it. But excesive bulling and hurtful words can being down the person being bullied. They should be able to suck it up, its ok but up to a point where it's just mean and hurtful.

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anjetzer(14) Disputed
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i agree cam bulling it is a bad think if its ever day and to a max but it cases some people can use that to get stronger and can change people for the good

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MadisonJewel(13) Disputed
1 point

Bullying is a horrible thing. It doesn't happen to everyone so they don't know how it personally feels to have someone tear you down everyday with hurtful words and actions. Anyone who is bullying should have punishment of somesort. Look at that kid in Kiel, he was being bullied. he killed himself. If bullying continues for certain people they start to think the only way out is suicide. it is horrible

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Bullying is never a good thing! I don't get how you can say its good up to a point. Especially because it causes deaths every year..

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kflanagan(16) Disputed
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I can see your point that sometimes it helps you grow, but in that process someone else is always getting hurt. When you hurt someone else it affects them more than it helps you grow so yes bulling is always a bad thing.

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I agree that someone is always getting hurt when someone bullies someone else. According to stopbullying.gov, people who are bullied, people who bully others, and people who witness bullying are all affected. Some of the affects to these people are really shocking and sad.

http://www.stopbullying.gov/topics/effects/index.html

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SallyPaese(16) Disputed
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I think it depeneds on how bad the bullying is. If the bullying is actually physical, it is definetly wrong. If the bully also verbally abuses the person into thinking they are worthless, that is also wrong. But children do need to grow up with some bullying. Small name calling and stuff like that does make them stronger and shows them that not everyone in the world is perfectly nice.

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rgiese4(15) Disputed
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Yes bullying is a bad thing but on the other hand it does make some people get stronger and that they just have to think about like if they can give it they should be able to take it to. And something that people just have fun some people just have to take it as a joke and not take it to heart right away.

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SallyPaese(16) Disputed
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If the bullying is bad enough it can have horrible effects on the kid. They have higher risk of depression, their grades can drop, they may have thoughts of suicide, they are more likely to miss school, and a lot more. Unless its just joking, bullying is bad.

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carabardon(15) Disputed
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You'll never know why people are bullies unless you know what they're going through.. but sitll its never right. Theres other ways to cope, but they don't know how so they take it out on other people. Bullying is the most common form of violence in our society according to this link between 15% and 30% of students are bully victims.

http://www.nasponline.org/resources/factsheets/bullying_fs.aspx

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1 point

Abortion means to pretty much kill the growing baby inside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion

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alexkrueger(15) Disputed
1 point

its not pretty much. it is killing the baby. even getting an abortion in the first couple weeks is the same as killing a full size human. in the first few weeks that baby has already had its own heart beat and has arms and legs

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1 point

taxes i think that the rich should have to pay more taxes the the lower classes

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

you want to tax them now but if you ever get rich you will think the other way. tax them about the same this is soupose to be a equal.

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i agree because all the rich people have more money so they should be taxed more

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rgiese4(15) Disputed
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Yes that is true that they have more money but I don’t think that they should have to pay more money. I think that the taxes should be the same for everybody. That’s like saying you are rich give me some of your money. And if you were rich would you want to give up your money?

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I think the rich should get us out of dept because if they have sooooooo much money and barely usu it for good why wont start doing good by getting us out of dept.

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shanaynay151(13) Disputed
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Yes I agree something should be done about the fact that 1% has most the money but that doesn't mean take from the rich, Some of them are surgeons or people who actually work for a living. I understand that famous singers adn actors dont fall into that catagory and they have an unfair advantage but hing about it this way we get a live and we have a choice they mostly have their life planned for them, Would you really want that?

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ya i agree. since they are making all of the money then why shouldn't they be paing higher taxes than us.

Side: michael barnard
HuNtER72(17) Disputed
1 point

I HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS AND DISPUTE THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME LOWER CLASS PEOPLE CANT PAY THEIR TAZES BUT AT THE SAME TIME FOR EXAMPLE MY UNCLE MADE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR FROM WORKING ALL DAY 16 HOURS A DAY..PEOPLE LIKE HIM SHOULDNT BE TAKED AS MUCH AS THEY ARE BECAUSE ITS NOT RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY THE MONEY A HARDWORKING PERSON MADE BY THEMSELVES.

Side: michael barnard
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Abortion, or the termination of pregnancy, is wrong and should be abolished. All life is sacred and should be kept safe. Many other people believe that in certain cases such as rape and disabled babies, abortion should be an option for those people. I believe that even in these cases, abortion should not be allowed. Only if the pregnant woman and the baby are at risk due to health issues should it be acceptable.

Side: michael barnard
bmusiedlak(14) Disputed
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But what if the girl had no chice and got pregrenant. Its not her fault and I think she should be able to use abortion.

Side: michael barnard
cjhauser(15) Disputed
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But most of America is using abortion as a birth control. Less than a fourth of abortion cases are because of rape. Most of them are un-planed pregnancy's, and she should at least try to support it first. She shouldn't just abort it right away and basicly kill it before it lives.

Side: michael barnard
glander26(16) Disputed
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i agree with you on half, if you get pregnate becasue you do it on purpos then i feel you should have it, but if you do get raped at a young age would you really wat to keep it? its hard enough to get money, but when you get pregnate out of choice you have time to plann for it, and if you get raped you shooud be able to abort it.. there would be no way to support it at a young age

Side: michael barnard
SallyPaese(16) Disputed
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I do feel a lot of sympathy for girls in that situation but its a chance for them to turn such a horrible event into something beautiful that they can watch grow and be proud of. If the girl is young and pregnancy is a health issue for her, that is the only way that abortion would be okay. Abortion is murder. It is wrong.

Side: michael barnard
1 point

Agreed. If someone was raped or something like that they should just put the baby up for adoption instead of taking a life.

Side: michael barnard
1 point

But what if the mother cant afford the proper care to go throught pregnecy. Also if a girl gets raped is she supposed to have a child she didn't even try for.

Side: michael barnard
cole meyer(-1) Disputed
1 point

touff get a job work ask your parents or the rapest for some money

Side: michael barnard
SallyPaese(16) Disputed
1 point

Like i said, being raped is horrible, but its a chance to turn something terrible into something great. Even if she has trouble paying for it. Do you think murder is a better choice than trying your hardest to get proper care for the child?

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Abortion is used as a birth control for some people. They abort their child, a growing, living human being, because they don't want the responsibility of raising it. Human life should be valued.

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levia1(11) Disputed
1 point

it is fine if you were raped but other then that it shouldn't be used. but you cant single out people and only say only rape victims can get abortion. the country is based off equality.

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1 point

No matter what people say, abortion is wrong. All life is sacred. Abortion is murder. Its not any different than killing an adult. It may even be worse. If you abort a child, it never gets a chance to live! In know way is it okay to kill a baby except for health risks. Besides, abortion clinics rely on taxpayer's money. Do you really want to be paying for the killing of unborn children. Abortion needs to be abolished.

http://www.abortionsarewrong.com/2011/10/dangerous-facts-on-abortion/

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JonGideon(12) Disputed
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I agree that is abortion is wrong, unless someone is raped. If someone is raped, they should be allowed to have an abortion. If you force them to have the baby, that would wreck there life. Plus, the baby would have a really bad life too. Would you rather have one good life, or two bad lives?

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kflanagan(16) Disputed
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But if the girl is raped she should have the choice. I understand that you can make it something great but it would also be a constant reminder of something horrible. Can you imagine looking at your child at a age as young as 13 and alwyas seeing the guys face that did it to you. I think it would be worse for the child. And would if having the baby influenced the girls health. Woulud if she wasn't able to have a baby when she actually wanted one.

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SallyPaese(16) Disputed
1 point

But think about it. Killing is better? If you were the child wouldnt you rather have the chance to live? And like I said before, if the pregnancy is a health risk, thats the only way abortion is okay.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Strongly agreed!!!!! They're killling innocent babies. There are ways to pervent you from having babies. You could take birth control pills. Even then, I don't like it but it's better then having an abortion. Think about it, there are mothers that are killing their babies just because they made bad decisions.

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1 point

i agree kassi. for those who use it as birth control, that is awful. Use a type of birth control that isnt murder.

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1 point

Some people say other birth control is readily available; thus, abortion shouldn't be a form of birth control.

http://www.balancedpolitics.org/abortion.htm

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

US Border. If someone from Mexico wants to come to the United States, get a passport. The reason they are sneaking over most of the time is to bring drugs over with them. If this is the case, I feel the US border patrol has all right to shoot them. A lot of the people come to the United States come over illegally and cannot speak English. I feel if you want to come to this country and live here, you should know how to speak there language. Especially the illegal ones. In California, students in one school would say the Pledge of Allegiance once in English and once in Spanish. This is where I think if you come here you should be able to speak the country’s language.

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I agree. The illegal immigrants are out of control. I think the U.S. should put up a large electrified fence or something to try to keep them out. With the "border jumpers" coming over illegally, they are taking jobs away from true American citizens. Also most of them can' speak English which also means they can't read it. These people are on the roads driving, and if they don't read a sign correctly then they put themselves and others in danger.

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dustinbarber(10) Disputed
1 point

that is tarable why would you say something like that thats like saying we cant travel the world cause we cant speak the language that they speak. they reason they come here is because there countries are ran by drug lords not every one that comes over here brings drugs.

Side: citizenship final discussion

I think that the Walker recall is a big waste of time and they should just stop the recall.

because if they wasted all this time and money to do the recall and he doesn't get recalled then that was a waste of time and money.

Side: the Walker recall
1 point

you just repeated yourself like 4 times so that you would have a 50 character post

Side: the Walker recall

I agree 9 MILION because "he isnt doing good enough and we ar lossing money" haha we just hurt our selves

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Harassment hurts many people but what is the purpose of that when all harassment does is hurt people and cause trouble to the world. If only harassment was out of the equation would the world be better or worse without harassment.

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

If harassment was gone I think people would just find different ways to hurt people. Although I do agree with this, i think people would just still get hurt over all

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1 point

Do you agree on concealed fire arm? I don't becasue if people started getting guns the gangs would be become more dangerous and they are already killing peole with there guns. I hope they do not pass that law because it will become more dangerous.

Side: citizenship final discussion
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I agree with the gang thing but also what if everyone had a gun? Then if gangs did attack people would feel safe and also if something went wrong like a robbery or something they would feel much safer as to if they didn't have a gun.

Side: citizenship final discussion
alexkrueger(15) Disputed
1 point

with that law in action, it states you can carry a fireame with a permit. It DOESNT give you permition to shoot up the city. gangs all over wisconsin were carrying guns before the law, and they always will.

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bclark(19) Disputed
1 point

Concealed fire arms is a little confusion gone big because people are saying can you be trusted with a fire arm and protect yourself or are you not trusted with a fire arm and can't protect yourself.

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addymiller(12) Disputed
1 point

i do not agree with concealed fire arm because now everyone can carry around a gun, and people are going to become trigger happy, and lives are going to be at state.

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rgiese4(15) Disputed
1 point

I believe that they should have the concealed and carry because it will be safer. Yes it might let the gangs have guns but then you can have a gun to protect yourself. So you have the same advantage as them. And it helps with the hunter’s allot because you do not need to unload your handgun that you would have for protection in the woods for bears or other animals.

Side: citizenship final discussion
lerks6(11) Disputed
1 point

i disagree because why would you want them to have guns so they can just kill us

Side: citizenship final discussion
MadisonJewel(13) Disputed
1 point

All of the gangs have been carrying weapons probably since they could walk. Concealed carry is giving the LEGAL people a chance to protect themselves in case a dangerous situation comes up. Most building do not permit and guns on their property which make things safer.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
anjetzer(14) Disputed
1 point

i agree but the thing is gangs are using more biger weapons the consiled carrie is just for small arms like pistals

Side: Concealed Carry Permit

the concealed carry was good and bad. because not everybody can get it. only people that took all the courses.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
cptcrunch(19) Disputed
1 point

i belive concealed carry is a good idea because peole should have the freedom to carry a concealed weapon. its not like unconceale carry was illegal, why should concealed carry be?

i also think that there should not be any government regulations and restrictions on guns, you have the right to bear arms, and no government should be messing with that.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

i still think its a bad thing though because they will kill people that are innocent.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

If we did not sign the bill of rights our country would not be able to function. I think our government would be a democracy the people would have no say in anything. The government would be in complete control and would get rid of anyone saying against them. There would have been a huge fight because people were scared that they wouldn't get one so by not having one people would be really mad.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

I believe that they shouldn't have to have a green card. They should have the same chances as us. They should be able to come to the United States because they are people just like us. And it you really think about it no one really owns land, land is just there. And also on the other side we do not need anything to go to the other countries but when you come to the United States then you do.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
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Yeah but we can't just allow a million people to come and live in this country if they thik they'll have a better life than in their country. Our country isn't doing good and many people already here arnt doing good. The only reason why I think people should just stay where there at unless they have a really good job offfer.

Side: Concealed Carry Permit
1 point

i agree, if people come here and expect to get a good living there gonna be in some trouble. we already in debt and if mre people start comming were going to becoe in more debt

Side: Concealed Carry Permit

Computers help us a lot because if we didn't have them we couldn't learn about stuff that isn't in books and we wouldn't be able to search for information on a specific topic and just be able to learn. so without computers we would be pretty dumb...

Side: citizenship final discussion
1 point

Most of the time but keep in mind that computers are most of all the information we know in a bow with numbers and keys.

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